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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Grendel_Khan" data-source="post: 8598101" data-attributes="member: 7028554">I've absolutely seen dice fudging, and it absolutely tanked the game. Not in that very moment, but later on us players talked about it, it was clear, it weirded us all out, and we steered away from playing that GM's game again, or, honestly, anything else he wanted to run. It was a real thing that essentially booted him out of the GM chair for good.But also, we weren't playing D&D, so we didn't have what seems to me like a bit of a pedantic crutch, which is this business about the DMG telling you you can do this thing, but you really shouldn't, but if you must, but also maybe not so much. A pretty tough bit of RAW to hang any arguments on. Plenty of games are bursting at the seams with wishy-washy GM guidance. But also, if that section is so important, do you really think a DM who interprets that slippery language as "fudge any old time you want" would then start running a Traveler game, and, not finding similar fudging discussion, nod solemnly to themselves and say "Well this system clearly doesn't advocate fudging, so I will refrain!"I don't think dice-fudging is about a sentence or two in the DMG. It's something you do or that you don't.</blockquote>