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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8599186" data-attributes="member: 22779">Oh, hey, I just wanted it to be absolutely clear.The basic issue is that the DM is hiding changing the numbers.&nbsp; Changing the numbers is, in and of itself, not really an issue.&nbsp; Except, I think, that I see that [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] might have some issue with it as well.&nbsp; And, I'm not sure about others.&nbsp; But, the basic issue is one of the DM not announcing to the table what he or she is doing.Does explain why I never see this as a major issue.&nbsp; Every table I've ever played at since I began gaming just assumed the DM was fudging.&nbsp; The DM never needs to announce it because, well, everyone at the table knows that it's just part of DMing.&nbsp; It's been an assumed part of DMing since Day 1.Like I said, I've never seen players get terribly fussed about this.&nbsp; I know, as a player, I just assume that the DM will alter rolls from time to time.&nbsp; The DM is encouraged to do so by various advice in the DMG and it has always been like this.Just not a hill I would even consider dying on.&nbsp; Heck, I wouldn't even think of it as a hill.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8599186, member: 22779"] Oh, hey, I just wanted it to be absolutely clear. The basic issue is that the DM is hiding changing the numbers. Changing the numbers is, in and of itself, not really an issue. Except, I think, that I see that [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] might have some issue with it as well. And, I'm not sure about others. But, the basic issue is one of the DM not announcing to the table what he or she is doing. Does explain why I never see this as a major issue. Every table I've ever played at since I began gaming just assumed the DM was fudging. The DM never needs to announce it because, well, everyone at the table knows that it's just part of DMing. It's been an assumed part of DMing since Day 1. Like I said, I've never seen players get terribly fussed about this. I know, as a player, I just assume that the DM will alter rolls from time to time. The DM is encouraged to do so by various advice in the DMG and it has always been like this. Just not a hill I would even consider dying on. Heck, I wouldn't even think of it as a hill. [/QUOTE]

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