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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Monayuris" data-source="post: 8599471" data-attributes="member: 6859536">The dice are just a tool. Something the DM can use to drive game play. Many times dice are needed... it would be impossible to game out a combat with fantastic creatures without them ( at a certain point the capabilities of magical creatures would exceed our ability to contextualize and we would need the abstraction of the dice). Other times they aren't or they result in an outcome that is undesirable.The DM can and should be able to make that kind of call. Its part of being a DM to use discretion when to use / not use dice and when to follow or not follow the results of the dice.But the DM needs to be neutral and consistent and cognizant of player agency at all times. My issue with fudging comes when a DM uses their discretion to force their preferred outcome that goes against the expectations and understanding of the players and without their knowledge. When they change things behind the scenes in ways that invalidate the decisions I make as a player.</blockquote>