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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8600056" data-attributes="member: 6790260">While it is true that "most people are neutral-or-positive," as in a narrow majority (53.9%), it is also true that the vast majority are neutral-or-negative (77.4%). Or, if we go with three categories instead of four--positive, neutral, negative--then the clear plurality (47.1%) is negative.Now, before anyone replies with "this poll isn't representative!!!" I know that, I know it's not useful data for statistical reasoning. But even if this inflates the people strongly opposed by a factor of 3 and even if we completely ignore the somewhat-negative response, the well-established fact that a lot of DMs DO fudge runs headlong into the fact that a significant number of groups have at least one player opposed to fudging. If the poll is even remotely useful, that is if the overall population of gamers has even half just the highly-negative response group, then 44% of four-person groups and 52% of five-person groups would have at least one player strongly opposed to fudging. If "almost everyone" fudges, that means somewhere between 40% and 50% of groups could have a serious problem if it were revealed!I mean...I have been pretty clear this entire time that it is a minority view, but it is a substantial minority view. As in, there is (as shown above) a reasonably high probability that at least one player in a randomly-selected group would have a problem. You cannot know without asking...and several of people have said that they haven't ever noticed (or been) a DM asking about it, or conversely that they presume it just doesn't happen and would find it a nasty surprise to know that it did/does happen.That's...not how I have ever used that phrase. "X sure is a thing" is how one intentionally avoids making any kind of assessment, positive or negative, by falling back to an utterly inarguable objective statement. Because, as I think we can all agree, fudging actually is a thing! Whether it is a good thing or a bad thing isn't specified. I meant exactly zero sarcasm with it.</blockquote>

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