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<blockquote data-quote="LordEntrails" data-source="post: 8601536" data-attributes="member: 6804070"><p>And the players are not supposed to read the DMG, therefore players generally do not now what the DMG says. Therefore claiming players should all know about fudging and expect it, then you logic is flawed.</p><p></p><p>IMO, it's the DMs responsibility to make sure this issue is addressed or known to players before the campaign starts. Just like if a DM is going to allow sexual violence, descriptive torture, murdering of children, graphic abuse, etc, it is up to the DM to breach the subject, not wait until someone is offended to bring it up for discussion or awareness. Besides, as many thing that fudging should be hidden from players, the topic will not come up until well after the situation has occurred, possible dozens of times.</p><p></p><p>My experiences are pretty much the same, that players don't care about GM side stuff. Until they do and feel betrayed.</p><p></p><p>Because D&D is all about power exchange?</p><p></p><p>Yes it was.</p><p></p><p>My experience is that perspective shifts as society experiences, learns and shares. How many things were acceptable in 1980 that are not now? Racial discrimination, sexual bias in work and pay, etc. Seems to an old white grognard like me, that this change is a good thing.</p><p></p><p>So has discriminatory behavior. Racism, sexism, etc has been part and parcel of society since history began. But it is no longer considered acceptable. Human society is changing, and growing, and hopefully become better for it I hope the RPG community can do the same.</p><p></p><p>Yea, that logic is just wrong, as has been pointed out and refuted already.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LordEntrails, post: 8601536, member: 6804070"] And the players are not supposed to read the DMG, therefore players generally do not now what the DMG says. Therefore claiming players should all know about fudging and expect it, then you logic is flawed. IMO, it's the DMs responsibility to make sure this issue is addressed or known to players before the campaign starts. Just like if a DM is going to allow sexual violence, descriptive torture, murdering of children, graphic abuse, etc, it is up to the DM to breach the subject, not wait until someone is offended to bring it up for discussion or awareness. Besides, as many thing that fudging should be hidden from players, the topic will not come up until well after the situation has occurred, possible dozens of times. My experiences are pretty much the same, that players don't care about GM side stuff. Until they do and feel betrayed. Because D&D is all about power exchange? Yes it was. My experience is that perspective shifts as society experiences, learns and shares. How many things were acceptable in 1980 that are not now? Racial discrimination, sexual bias in work and pay, etc. Seems to an old white grognard like me, that this change is a good thing. So has discriminatory behavior. Racism, sexism, etc has been part and parcel of society since history began. But it is no longer considered acceptable. Human society is changing, and growing, and hopefully become better for it I hope the RPG community can do the same. Yea, that logic is just wrong, as has been pointed out and refuted already. [/QUOTE]
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