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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 3774324" data-attributes="member: 6562">Extremely common in my experience. Spot / Listen see use in over 70% of the encounters I've run (at least once), and see multiple uses in at least 20%, though I've paid much less attention to tracking that.What's extreme is the effort required to even get a 75% chance of party success.And what's worse is that in 4e, we're to expect a 4:1 ratio of bad guys to PCs. So it's no longer 5 must beat 1, it's 5 must beat 20. That's a recipe for failure if you don't have a 100% chance of success against each of those 20. Agree, but IMHO that's orthogonal. *shrug* Opposed skill checks are important. The other opposed check is going to be skill vs. the various Defenses, which will be very easy at low level and very hard at high level. Why? Why is it bad for someone who's good at something to succeed against someone who sucks at that same thing? I feel like I'm missing something very important here.Cheers, -- N</blockquote>