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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Connorsrpg" data-source="post: 2492352" data-attributes="member: 19265">Have never taken any cue from wealth guidelines.  In fact players know that items gained in our campaign are to be savoured.  I do NOT ever check their wealth with the guidelines.  Generally they are below the required, but after a big find may jump above...I am not sure I have never checked.I agree with MerricB.  Class, spells etc ALL impact on what monsters can be defeated.  And let's remember not ALL monsters need be defeated.  I rarely take any notice of CR either.  PCs often fight creatures well below and sometimes those well above.  Fleeing is always an option...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  And one several players need to learn.  I find it odd a group of players could go into so many life-threatening situations (and to me ANY fight where there are sword, axes, claws and magic is life-threatenting) and win every one...Our current 6-7th level group has NO magic weapons.  They just haven't come up much as treasure.  Well they did have a cursespewing mace, but felt it was too evil, so they destroyed it.  I loved that.I don't use the guidelines for new characters either.  On rare occasions I have given a PC the wealth a starting NPC would have - and they still come in better equipped than most active PCs.  See, choosing the items makes for a far superior PC too.  You can gear every item towards you primary focus.  I am not in favour of that.  But I treat NPCs the same way...Here is a cut piece from the NPC creation doc I have done for Cellworld (our CS).  I use these guidelines for PCs too.  Yes, even at first level.  So at 1st level a character may be ABOVE the recommended.  But the item (if one is rolled at first) is random (although I generally make if of some use), and sometimes the player is even unaware of its powers.  (I have started campaigns where a PC didn't even know they carried a magic item.Here is the excert...oh and I forgot to mention...I love randomness <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />GearMagic ItemsRoll a d10 a number of times equal to NPC’s level.  The NPC gets a MI each time the dice is equal to or less than the number started at but the number drops by one for each roll (descending dice).  Eg: for a 5th level NPC you need to roll a 5 or less, then a 4 or less, and so on down to 1.  Hence 10th level and higher characters gain automatic MI’s and a chance for more.  (NB: Halve all levels of Commoner, Expert and Warrior NPC class levels when using this mechanic).  Of course high-level characters may begin with many MI’s.  Not all of them need be carried on them.  You may even simply disregard some items.  Don’t re-roll items that may not suit NPC – these items could be treasure gained from other defeated foes, but a NPC should have some items of use.   To determine the power of a MI roll on Table 10-1 below:Modifiers:NPC under 5th level    -1    NPC above 10th level    +1Table10-1 NPC magical item power (Roll 1d10)0-6    Minor7-9    Medium10+    MajorSpecial ItemsDetermine the number of special items exactly as MI’s above.  (Remember if the NPC has a HL feat it automatically starts with bonus gear).  This includes masterwork weapons, armor and kits, poison, alchemical items, special substances, spell catalysts, etcMundane EquipmentTo finish, give the NPC a set of clothes and any normal items that an NPC of this sort would have.  Starting kits detailed under classes and as a web enhancement are good ideas for low-level NPCs.</blockquote>

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