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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 5012381" data-attributes="member: 43019">I actually suspect that a lot of groups use healing they don't need, or could survive more on potions and second wind. And some groups also overload on healing such that they are near invulnerable, potentially facing fewer combats per day, and often just killing things much more slowly. Slowly enough in some cases that they end up taking all the damage they've got in extra healing, just at a net loss in surges.Last night, the cleric used both healing words, word of vigor, healing strike, and (missed) strengthen the faithful, while the other characters used three potions of vitality and one second wind. A single character fell down, in the final round. Mind you, there were some close calls. Like when the cleric was already bloodied and fell 50 feet into a pit (leaving her at like 9 hp) where a second encounter started.But, frankly, we overhealed and had more potions of vitality (like another 1-2 each - in fact, since we got like 5 for clearing out the two encounters, we netted 2) and four more second winds we could use and a daily that gave a surge. And that was one of the toughest encounters we've done, with 2 full encounters at once plus a fifty foot drop (which everyone in the party jumped into).Which I think implies that we had too much healing in _every other fight we've done yet in the entire game_. And every healing past the minimum to keep people up and going (and sometimes not even that) is basically wasted. Like, my LFR warlord dropped all of his healing powers since our group got so good at killing things that I wasn't even using inspiring words during combat for a great majority of combats (as a test, mind you, to see if I needed to).So, yeah, healing is powerful, but frankly it's boring. And Astral Seal and pacifist healer and the new cleric turn option and the way hospitaler's mark used to work are, while totally neat ideas that fill a good niche, probably bad for the game as just 'too much'. Especially Astral Seal on certain characters.</blockquote>

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