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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack7" data-source="post: 4837657" data-attributes="member: 54707">I'm with you. I also personally like it when magic is a transgression of the technical and scientific values held by the society in which it is performed.I think you have a point here. I think the situation would be better served with a newer (though not necessarily modern) and more accurate vocabulary. For instance it is very hard for me to imagine a group of wizards, who study "magic intently" not developing a very specific vocabulary to explain the predictable results they generate by executing "magical formulae of actions." Alchemists developed their own very complex vocabulary. The term "magic" would not suffice at all, because what you are doing is not magic at all, it is science. Predictable actions yielding predictable and repeatable results.With what Wizards do, studying magic from tomes and texts, that is far more like hybridized techno-magic, or a proto-science, or nascent science, than it is "magic." It is in truth a chimera between magic (seemingly magical force) and formulated methods of studying, employing, and controlling that force (science).So a new and far more accurate term (or set of terms) for what Wizards (and those like them) do should be developed. Because they would develop such terms for themselves over time in any case. You cannot instruct others in the predictability of your system (of force manipulation) without an accurate and logical method of education, classification, experimentation, and predictability."Magic" on the other hand is perfectly acceptable term for the unpredictable and the mysterious. When things are unpredictable you need vague or generalized language precisely because you cannot truly specify materials, forces, and events, or cannot calculate the exact results of their intermixing.Magic to me would be a very good term for unpredictable, unrepeatable (in the scientific and technical sense), mysterious, impulsive types of force and power normally associated with magic throughout most of history, myth, literature, etc.Some other term, perhaps something like Wizardry or Craft or Work (trying to avoid the actual use of the term science) would far better describe technologically oriented magic."Anyways I hope that I haven't just repeated something somebody else has said. I wish I had the time to read the entire thread or even to respond to some other threads. But for the past week or more I've only had intermittent time to use the internet for anything other than work and analysis. Especially with what is going on in Iran.But I like the idea for this thread.It's a subject I like thinking about.</blockquote>

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