How do you bring 4.0 and 3.5 classes together?

Najo

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I am working on a home brew rules set that I want to have the customization and multiclassing of 3.5 with the class powers and shared progression of 4.0.

How would you go about doing this?
 

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That's way too complicated, I wouldn't do it...

However If I WERE to make somthing like that, I'd allow the Players to use the (2nd ed?) rules for multiclassing where the DO stack, but you need to gain all xps seperately (halved xp to each). So single classed characters would be level 4 before the others would be level 2. If you use an average for starting HPs and healing surges that would work well. Feats for customization would be more feat spacific though. I'd go over any "Old" feat the player would want and discuss what each of you would think the "new" rules for said feat should be.
 

I am working on a home brew rules set that I want to have the customization and multiclassing of 3.5 with the class powers and shared progression of 4.0.

How would you go about doing this?

strip out the powers (shared progression?) from the 4e classes and blend them into the 3.5 classes. Invent new base classes where needed.

3.5 doesn't have a "warlord"... so you might apply its powers to the bard.

G'luck... smacks of effort.

edit: or you could turn each 4e Class into a tremendous Feat-tree... again, smacks of effort. Might end up pretty damn cool though...

Magic Missile [wizard]
blahblahblah
Prerequisite: ??, must know Magic Missile (?)
Benefit: Magic Missile as an At Will spell-like ability.

advanced Cleave [fighter]
blahblahblah
Prerequisities: cleave feat
Benefit: whatever 4e's cleave does... I don't remember too clearly.

advanced great cleave [fighter]
.....
prerequisties: cleave, advanced cleave, great cleave
benefit: as 4e cleave, but every target you threaten.

~~~

I think you'd almost have to give everybody a feat per level (instead of 1, 3, 6, 9, etc) to make this work. If I had the 4e PHB, I might try this out myself.
 
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I am working on a home brew rules set that I want to have the customization and multiclassing of 3.5 with the class powers and shared progression of 4.0.

Um, honestly, at that point, I'd reduce it all to point-buy. The multiclassing of 3.5 with the powers of 4.0 seems to me to say "I can take any power I want, when I want", and that sounds like point-buy.

I don't think it'd yield something I would want to play, though.
 

One word: Feats.

Rewrite whatever powers you like from 4e as 3rd/3.5 Edition Feats.

You could also repackage them as "alternate class features" to limit them to a certain class, if you'd prefer. This also gives you the option of offering them to replace standard class features, so that there can be trade-offs involved.

Either way works especially well for beefing up and customizing Fighters, with their large allocation of feats that *are* a class feature.
 

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