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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 2718078" data-attributes="member: 6562">Yeah, I was going to chime in with the Sorc -> Dragon Disciple idea too, but I think this is even better:(assumes Human for extra Feat)1: Barb 1 -- Combat Expertise, Improved Trip2: Ftr 1 -- EWP (Spiked Chain)3: Barb 2 -- Combat Reflexes4: Ftr 2 -- Str +1 -- Dodge5: Sorc 1 -- Feather Fall, True Strike (the two 1st level Core spells without any Somatic components)6: Dragon Disciple 1 -- NA +1, Mobility7: DD 2 -- Str +28: DD 3 -- Str +19: DD 4 -- Str +2, NA +2 (total), Spring Attack10: DD 5 -- Blindsense 30 ft.11: DD 6 -- Con +212: DD 7 -- Str +1 -- NA +3 (total), Whirlwind Attack13: DD 8 -- Int +214: DD 9 -- Wings15: DD 10 -- Str +4, Cha +2, NA +4 (total), Blindsense 60 ft., Fly-By Attack... but then what?5 levels of Barbarian (Barb 7) -> BAB +16, Improved Uncanny Dodge, DR 1/--, not bad but not great5 levels of Rogue -> BAB +14, SA +3d6, Improved Uncanny Dodge, Evasion5 levels of Sorc (Sorc 6) -> BAB +13, 3rd level spells, mehSorc 1 / Ftr 4 -> BAB +16, 2 more Feats, 1 more true strike each day, mehRanger 1 / Horizon Walker 4 -> BAB +16, some nifty abilities like immunity to fatigue(some cross-class skill ranks) / Horizon Walker 5 -> BAB +15, Epic level you can start on Planar Terrain Types, kinda niftyNon-Core:Exotic Weapon Master 2: Exotic Flurry and the one that gives you a bonus to TripHalf-Dragon Paragon 3: Strong, but also great flavorOccult Slayer 5: Trip the Wizard!... but now that I look up at what i've written, I realize that Whirlwind Attack is not for everyone. Some DMs throw lots of minions at you (WWA is good), some throw one or two big hitters at you (WWA is lousy). So, here's an alternate build, made for equally distributing the pain amongst minions (Cleave) or heavy hitters with DR (via Power Attack):(assumes Human for extra Feat)1: Barb 1 -- Combat Expertise, Improved Trip2: Ftr 1 -- Power Attack3: Barb 2 -- Cleave4: Ftr 2 -- Str +1 -- EWP: Spiked Chain5: Sorc 1 -- Feather Fall, True Strike (the two 1st level Core spells without any Somatic components)6: Dragon Disciple 1 -- NA +1, Weapon Focus (Spiked Chain)7: DD 2 -- Str +28: DD 3 -- Str +19: DD 4 -- Str +2, NA +2 (total), Improved Sunder (works equally well on Hydrae and Unholy Swords)10: DD 5 -- Blindsense 30 ft.11: DD 6 -- Con +212: DD 7 -- Str +1 -- NA +3 (total), Improved Initiative13: DD 8 -- Int +214: DD 9 -- Wings15: DD 10 -- Str +4, Cha +2, NA +4 (total), Blindsense 60 ft., Fly-By AttackNote that DD grants you Blindsense 60 ft., so you have no need of Blind-Fight as a Feat. Together with Uncanny Dodge, you are quite tough to sneak up on.Anyway, hope this helps!Cheers, -- N</blockquote>

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