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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 5712699" data-attributes="member: 20323">Interesting responses so far!Hey I've played with that guy! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> IME &quot;lovable jerkoff instigator&quot; is appropriate, frequently overlapping with &quot;defaults to the same character archetype every time.&quot;Back when we played 2e I had a player who was all about character development thru play, and he'd get annoyed with my questions about backstory and character motivation because he looked forward to finding those out.Mostly I've DMed, maybe in my life I've played 5 PCs. So I have a lot less experience than other players on these boards. I've also jumped into a game in the shoes of an NPC (which I would still consider an act of character creation, just not mechanically).I am also one of those who prefers to link his character to the world/campaign and to the rest of the party. For me that's the most inspiring step, and I wish more groups I've played with would spend the first session making characters together, or at least do so informally. It just makes the rest of the game so much smoother.One trick I've picked up is giving the DM a bullet points format character background calling out potential plot threads the DM might want to draw on or manipulate. This includes my character's secrets, both those he knows about and those unknown to him. From the outset differentiating between what I know and what my character knows helps keep me from meta-gaming too much.And usually I finish making a character by finding and painting a mini. It's an old hobby of mine that I just don't have time for, but when I play a PC I look forward to busting out my old paints <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 5712699, member: 20323"] Interesting responses so far! Hey I've played with that guy! ;) IME "lovable jerkoff instigator" is appropriate, frequently overlapping with "defaults to the same character archetype every time." Back when we played 2e I had a player who was all about character development thru play, and he'd get annoyed with my questions about backstory and character motivation because he looked forward to finding those out. Mostly I've DMed, maybe in my life I've played 5 PCs. So I have a lot less experience than other players on these boards. I've also jumped into a game in the shoes of an NPC (which I would still consider an act of character creation, just not mechanically). I am also one of those who prefers to link his character to the world/campaign and to the rest of the party. For me that's the most inspiring step, and I wish more groups I've played with would spend the first session making characters together, or at least do so informally. It just makes the rest of the game so much smoother. One trick I've picked up is giving the DM a bullet points format character background calling out potential plot threads the DM might want to draw on or manipulate. This includes my character's secrets, both those he knows about and those unknown to him. From the outset differentiating between what I know and what my character knows helps keep me from meta-gaming too much. And usually I finish making a character by finding and painting a mini. It's an old hobby of mine that I just don't have time for, but when I play a PC I look forward to busting out my old paints :) [/QUOTE]

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