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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 2224225" data-attributes="member: 20805">What do you really intend?Question... why do you want to convince them of the truth? In order to get them to act on something. Perhaps using the very well done dimplomancy rules at <a href="http://www.giantitp.com/Func0010.html" target="_blank">http://www.giantitp.com/Func0010.html</a> ...or pick up Penumbra's Demagogues rules for debate. My book is at home, and not all gamers will want to spend the money. Demagogues offers a mechanic for handling debates. It is rather extended and has classes and feats towards this end. The basic premise is to frame the debate as combat, with a pool of 'hit points' and various attack forms that may deal political damage to your opponent. Instead of just being one simple roll, there can be a series of policatal manuevers leading to the eventual 'win'. The losing side then adopts the winning sides concepts/idea as the right way to do things.Regardless, in game social skills are not supposed to be applied in a PC vs PC scenario. This is mainly to protect against a high CHR character charming and ordering around another PC, ruining the entertainment of a player as the character turns into a virtual slave.Anyway, if anyone is interested in the debate system, I can post more later when I have the book handy.</blockquote>