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<blockquote data-quote="kaomera" data-source="post: 5443906" data-attributes="member: 38357"><p>I would hope that would be the case, but it's going to be in the hands of the swordmage, who regularly goes total defense... I think he feels (possibly rightly, but I'd hope not) that the mass-pull and slow plus possible OA is usually going to be better than many of his other attacks...</p><p></p><p></p><p>IMO, in the case of the hungry blade standard, yes the monsters realize that it is pulling them towards it and slowing them. They would also know that they can spend a standard action to remove it, and should know that doing so would end the effect (well, the slow effect would remain, but it would stop applying the pull and the slow on subsequent turns). I think it really hinges on whether the monsters have anything better to do with their actions than pull it up - and given that it pretty effectively traps them while it's operating I think a situation is going to come up where that's just the most reasonable thing for them to do...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, it's a standard action to place and a standard to remove - that's in the rules. The one the players are grabbing is from Dragon 381 and has an additional effect (beyond the AV1 ones) that pulling it out provokes OAs. And it's an encounter effect, so it shouldn't be able to be re-planted once it's pulled up.</p><p></p><p>As for not being attacked (I think that's what you meant), I agree; but that just begs the question: why give it resist at all, then?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kaomera, post: 5443906, member: 38357"] I would hope that would be the case, but it's going to be in the hands of the swordmage, who regularly goes total defense... I think he feels (possibly rightly, but I'd hope not) that the mass-pull and slow plus possible OA is usually going to be better than many of his other attacks... IMO, in the case of the hungry blade standard, yes the monsters realize that it is pulling them towards it and slowing them. They would also know that they can spend a standard action to remove it, and should know that doing so would end the effect (well, the slow effect would remain, but it would stop applying the pull and the slow on subsequent turns). I think it really hinges on whether the monsters have anything better to do with their actions than pull it up - and given that it pretty effectively traps them while it's operating I think a situation is going to come up where that's just the most reasonable thing for them to do... Yeah, it's a standard action to place and a standard to remove - that's in the rules. The one the players are grabbing is from Dragon 381 and has an additional effect (beyond the AV1 ones) that pulling it out provokes OAs. And it's an encounter effect, so it shouldn't be able to be re-planted once it's pulled up. As for not being attacked (I think that's what you meant), I agree; but that just begs the question: why give it resist at all, then? [/QUOTE]
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