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<blockquote data-quote="jdrakeh" data-source="post: 3655835" data-attributes="member: 13892"><p>Again, I think that's a bit of a cop out. For example, there was an entire series of adventures and novels specifically detailing the Time of Troubles, while its outcome was reflected in changes to the core rules as well as subsequent setting material. Now, I <em>hate</em> the Time of Troubles, but anybody arguing that it didn't really happen in the official continuity as dozens of sourcebooks presented it (without variation, I might add) is being pretty disingenuous. </p><p></p><p>I think it's much more honest to say "The official continuity is crap and I'm not using it!" rather than "The official continuity didn't <em>really</em> happen like all of these hundreds of sourcebooks and rules present it!" </p><p></p><p>The "unreliable narrators" excuse is just that. . . an excuse used to justify inconsitencies in the setting material that resulted due to TSR's then rampant use of freelancers working in a vaccuum. Other than the word of Ed Greenwood, there's absolutely no imperical eveidence to support the "unreliable narrators" claim, especially when TSR itself was very vocal about the events of novels being part of the official continuity, not the misremembered ramblings of some senile, old, sage. </p><p></p><p>I could <em>never</em> sell the "unreliable narrator" angle to anybody but the most devout TSR apologist (not quite the same thing as a FR canon fanatic), and attempting to do so resulted in worse situations at the table than canon fanaticism <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdrakeh, post: 3655835, member: 13892"] Again, I think that's a bit of a cop out. For example, there was an entire series of adventures and novels specifically detailing the Time of Troubles, while its outcome was reflected in changes to the core rules as well as subsequent setting material. Now, I [i]hate[/i] the Time of Troubles, but anybody arguing that it didn't really happen in the official continuity as dozens of sourcebooks presented it (without variation, I might add) is being pretty disingenuous. I think it's much more honest to say "The official continuity is crap and I'm not using it!" rather than "The official continuity didn't [i]really[/i] happen like all of these hundreds of sourcebooks and rules present it!" The "unreliable narrators" excuse is just that. . . an excuse used to justify inconsitencies in the setting material that resulted due to TSR's then rampant use of freelancers working in a vaccuum. Other than the word of Ed Greenwood, there's absolutely no imperical eveidence to support the "unreliable narrators" claim, especially when TSR itself was very vocal about the events of novels being part of the official continuity, not the misremembered ramblings of some senile, old, sage. I could [i]never[/i] sell the "unreliable narrator" angle to anybody but the most devout TSR apologist (not quite the same thing as a FR canon fanatic), and attempting to do so resulted in worse situations at the table than canon fanaticism :( [/QUOTE]
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