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<blockquote data-quote="HolyGrenadeFrenzy" data-source="post: 3660393" data-attributes="member: 41808"><p>Yeah, ShinHakkaider is correct. Yet an interlude needs to be said about people.</p><p></p><p>DMing is no place for cowardice, and unfortunately you have to say things some have to just simply get over. I am not jumping to conclusions here but it does present a nasty picture for your game if it is tolerated. </p><p></p><p>I am a DM and a player because the good DMs in my area group together. We will run for anybody yet the Canon Fiends (So Dubbed) hit and run away to their loss. </p><p></p><p>If, and this is a big if, the aurguing continues from such a player then you have to quickly calculate your options. So perhaps we could draw off everyones options and make a bullet list for you, I haven't done it yet and someone else might beat me to it.</p><p></p><p>I often confront someone who does this sort of thing by degree of their intentions. Intentions can often be sensed, call it a real life "sense motive" if yoiu desire. If they simply want to Bulldoze the DM into getting their way I often will ask a series of questions.</p><p></p><p> Often their interperatations of the rules are the only ones that matter to them even if the DMs interperatations are the only ones that matter according to the Core Rules in the D&D game and pretty much that is the case in any Tabletop RPG. </p><p></p><p>@JD</p><p><span style="color: Yellow">"Are you a Player or are you the DM? Because the last time I checked I was DM in this game!"</span> Is something you might what to say to the player next time.</p><p></p><p>If that doesn't work you could ask inquistively like you don't quite get it.<span style="color: Yellow"> " Are you trying to bully me into giving you your demands? Because like that is no way to treat anybody around here and especially not the DM if you are! Or are you just opinionated and need to learn your place in the game</span> (Harsh but true)" is the next level of things generally I like to get cleared up in a game.....But then again I don't like to be bullied and some do put up with it.</p><p></p><p>There are always more options to try if you can't get it worked out with your players..maybe running something completely different even. Yet, I find it difficult to believe that a <em>discussion</em> about social elements could result in a non-gaming response....</p><p></p><p>...Is it possible your player was just interested in understanding what the previous cannon game setting social order thought of the new social order? Like if it was invading or always present? Was this a parrellel universe or not? Where any of these questions asked? </p><p></p><p>.......The reason I am curious is that the Scarred Lands have had plenty of room in their history for differing social agendas to try and take root and fail and even more are secret.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HolyGrenadeFrenzy, post: 3660393, member: 41808"] Yeah, ShinHakkaider is correct. Yet an interlude needs to be said about people. DMing is no place for cowardice, and unfortunately you have to say things some have to just simply get over. I am not jumping to conclusions here but it does present a nasty picture for your game if it is tolerated. I am a DM and a player because the good DMs in my area group together. We will run for anybody yet the Canon Fiends (So Dubbed) hit and run away to their loss. If, and this is a big if, the aurguing continues from such a player then you have to quickly calculate your options. So perhaps we could draw off everyones options and make a bullet list for you, I haven't done it yet and someone else might beat me to it. I often confront someone who does this sort of thing by degree of their intentions. Intentions can often be sensed, call it a real life "sense motive" if yoiu desire. If they simply want to Bulldoze the DM into getting their way I often will ask a series of questions. Often their interperatations of the rules are the only ones that matter to them even if the DMs interperatations are the only ones that matter according to the Core Rules in the D&D game and pretty much that is the case in any Tabletop RPG. @JD [COLOR=Yellow]"Are you a Player or are you the DM? Because the last time I checked I was DM in this game!"[/COLOR] Is something you might what to say to the player next time. If that doesn't work you could ask inquistively like you don't quite get it.[COLOR=Yellow] " Are you trying to bully me into giving you your demands? Because like that is no way to treat anybody around here and especially not the DM if you are! Or are you just opinionated and need to learn your place in the game[/COLOR] (Harsh but true)" is the next level of things generally I like to get cleared up in a game.....But then again I don't like to be bullied and some do put up with it. There are always more options to try if you can't get it worked out with your players..maybe running something completely different even. Yet, I find it difficult to believe that a [I]discussion[/I] about social elements could result in a non-gaming response.... ...Is it possible your player was just interested in understanding what the previous cannon game setting social order thought of the new social order? Like if it was invading or always present? Was this a parrellel universe or not? Where any of these questions asked? .......The reason I am curious is that the Scarred Lands have had plenty of room in their history for differing social agendas to try and take root and fail and even more are secret. [/QUOTE]
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