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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bowbe" data-source="post: 3673064" data-attributes="member: 6328">Bouncing off the above ideas, there is nothing wrong with having someone or something more powerful come along and rescue the PCs so that the PCs have a debt of honor or what not to repay. (Maybe even treasure).Nothing wrong with attempting to bribe the guards with information, or a promise of future treasures to be had. In the case of a rescue, it may be even cooler to have a MONSTER rescue the PCs vs. a lamely powerful NPC that the PCs grow to detest.There are tons of cool seldom used monsters that a clever GM could use to rescue the PCs from their current predicament. A xorn coming along ... a rust monster. Who knows?As for the PCs losing their equipment well... that gripe has never flown at my table. If PCs become too dependent on their gear (as the general 3e mindset seems to dictate) they become less of a unique character and more like a "pimped" ride. Sure it was a toyota once, but now look at it!Losing ones gear is an opportunity to test out new gear and different magic items. Its an opportunity to actually look at their raw stats, skills, and feats and see what those have to offer. The character SHOULD be more than a chassi to hang cool crap from afterall.Thus If some gamers can't enjoy the game without having their complete suite of "ring of evasion, ring of free action, belt of giant strength, flying +5 tower shield and +5 adamantine bastard sword" then perhaps they would have more fun playing an online game like WOW instead of sitting with chums, beer, pizza, and pretzles and the usual camraderie and BS'ing that goes with role playing a CHARACTER in a make believe GAME!It can be pointed out in literature and films of the genre that the good guys almost always lose their gear at some point and eventually replace it with COOLER gear, because thats supposed to be part of the cycle! All those Feats with the word "Focus" attached to them sorta drummed that out of the equation sometime over the last few years. Pretty sad eh?PeaceCase</blockquote>

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