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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9830891" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>This is pretty close to how I always felt it was meant to be used, mainly in reference towards changes that occur in D&D during edition changes.</p><p></p><p>Someone loved whatever edition of Dungeons & Dragons they were playing so much that when at some point in the future the edition of D&D got changed out from underneath them... they found that the game of 'Dungeons & Dragons' was no longer what they wanted. Their heart was now broken that the game was now different than what they thought was best and it did things they thought were bad or dumb. But rather than just continuing to play the version of D&D that they loved (for any of the reasons people give-- couldn't find players, wanted to be a part of the zeitgeist, players wanted a change etc. etc.)... they decided to try and to "fix" the new version of D&D by re-designing it and just taking out or editing all of the crap rules they thought were now ruining the game.</p><p></p><p>The problem of course ends up being that (and where they get their heart broken a second time) no one else actually has nearly the same issues with the current version D&D that this person does, and thus their version of "the perfect D&D game" is basically ignored by everyone. Rules changes that are made that the designer thinks are so important get questioned by everybody else. Or things that other people think should have been changed are not actually changed by the designer because the designer never had a problem with it.</p><p></p><p>Basically to me... 'fantasy heartbreaker' is any edited version of D&D a person puts together (mainly during the 3E and 5E times of the OGL) where that person is not comfortable just being happy playing with their own houserules in their own game... but instead thinks other people should or need to play their version as well. So they try and publish it in hopes that it catches on... but of course it never does.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9830891, member: 7006"] This is pretty close to how I always felt it was meant to be used, mainly in reference towards changes that occur in D&D during edition changes. Someone loved whatever edition of Dungeons & Dragons they were playing so much that when at some point in the future the edition of D&D got changed out from underneath them... they found that the game of 'Dungeons & Dragons' was no longer what they wanted. Their heart was now broken that the game was now different than what they thought was best and it did things they thought were bad or dumb. But rather than just continuing to play the version of D&D that they loved (for any of the reasons people give-- couldn't find players, wanted to be a part of the zeitgeist, players wanted a change etc. etc.)... they decided to try and to "fix" the new version of D&D by re-designing it and just taking out or editing all of the crap rules they thought were now ruining the game. The problem of course ends up being that (and where they get their heart broken a second time) no one else actually has nearly the same issues with the current version D&D that this person does, and thus their version of "the perfect D&D game" is basically ignored by everyone. Rules changes that are made that the designer thinks are so important get questioned by everybody else. Or things that other people think should have been changed are not actually changed by the designer because the designer never had a problem with it. Basically to me... 'fantasy heartbreaker' is any edited version of D&D a person puts together (mainly during the 3E and 5E times of the OGL) where that person is not comfortable just being happy playing with their own houserules in their own game... but instead thinks other people should or need to play their version as well. So they try and publish it in hopes that it catches on... but of course it never does. [/QUOTE]
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