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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Boregar" data-source="post: 5583806" data-attributes="member: 53877">Thanks for all the responses, but Dausuul is the one who is closest to the issue I was having - the rules were dictacting a farce that I was trying to make serious. (And yes, it was the NPCs who were fumbling, not the players).I think I'll have a talk with my group before the next session, to gauge opinions on whether they are happy to continue with things as they are, whether we should ditch the fumbles altogether, or possibly a more streamline system like some of those mentioned here.Thanks again to those who replied. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>