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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 3539102" data-attributes="member: 18701">I don't know if you're reading into my post in a way where you think, "How dare a guy tell people how a girl games" or if you honestly think I'm way off. But I've brought 4 different women into D&D, all different ages and all different backgrounds. I'm just speaking from my experience and they are currently hooked on D&D. My fiance is on her 4th year of gaming & loves it, another girl is on her 2nd year, and my newest female player in my group just had her 1 year gaming anniversary & she's the one that just begged the group to play 2 weekends in a row since we just played lastnight and this weekend is a 3-day weekend. The only reason the 4th woman isn't playing is because my buddy divorced her. I did DM other girls several years ago but life got in the way and I stopped DM'ing for several years. If a person is a good DM and a good roleplayer, he'll know the limits to go with a new player. I agree that if your roleplaying with a new player in an overbearing way, it can be intimidating. That's a good thing to point out but I disagree that you shouldn't roleplay at all until you've established a relationship at the table with the new player. My experience was that the women really got into the roleplaying more than combat. I can tell you now that my fiance is one that would never have even tried D&D again if all I showed her was combat. The reason I liked D&D after playing my first game was because of the roleplaying and the situation I was put in. My fond memories have nothing to do with the combat & dice rolling...but I sure like remembering the interaction my character had with various NPCs that first session.Please don't turn my good intentioned suggestion into nothing more than a hormone crazed teenage fantasy. If your male DMs handle females in his world as nothing but chainmail bikini clad amazonian women, then I feel your pain. But I handle my female players with the same standards as I would hanlde my male players...with respect. The bar fight is a classic D&D scenario and it is classic because it works & it's fun. A woman player can have just as much fun in a bar fight as a guy does. The only reason I suggested using a drunk woman rather than a drunk guy was because I thought maybe the OPs girlfriend might be insulted if her boyfriend did the sleezy guy routine since it's such a typical stereotype for a womans conflict. A female opponent for a female character has always gotten my female players wanting to hurt that NPC more than they wanted to hurt the male NPCs.You insinuating that a drunk girl in a bar picking a fight with a female character is "hot" basically should mean that as a woman, you should find it "hot" when a drunk man picks a fight with your fellow male players characters. I mean, that's just as silly of a thing to say as what you blasted at me. Drunk man on man fights...great idea! I'll even have them strip down to their thongs..."Now where *burp* did I put that sap? *hiccup* Oh....here *hiccup* it is! *burp*"  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Trust me....I would have done that in your first session and you would have been begging me to DM you again the next day  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />It took me a minute for this to register but I just realized what you were referring to. I should have made it clear...when I was saying make the new player shine by letting her get away with knocking out 3 drunks or whatever, I was referring to a solo game. I suggested starting a new player off in a solo game or with just 1 other player. Take it easy on her and let her get away with certain things that she attempts to do so she thinks her PC is "cool". I wasn't meaning that she should outshine other players in a group game.Then slowly put the pressure on her character so she understands the dangers of the world the more she plays. I do that with all my new players.</blockquote>

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