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<blockquote data-quote="N0Man" data-source="post: 4875498" data-attributes="member: 64066">So, my 4E's renewing my interest in D&amp;D, giving me a new found passion for DM'ing, and making me feel freed of certain aspects of previous editions I've found frustrating is nothing but a product of self-deception?If the point of the game is to be a simulation, then yes, it does have serious flaws, just like every other RPG I've ever played.However, that's not the point of the game and so your argument has serious flaws.To suggest that there's a considerable number of players who are being fooled into enjoying a seriously flawed game and just won't admit it to themselves is absurd beyond words.&nbsp; 4E isn't perfect, and it's not for everyone, however it certainly has merits to make it worthy of a following, even if it's not for you.&nbsp; Suggesting otherwise clearly indicates bias on your part, not self-deception on the part of those who are enjoying it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="N0Man, post: 4875498, member: 64066"] So, my 4E's renewing my interest in D&D, giving me a new found passion for DM'ing, and making me feel freed of certain aspects of previous editions I've found frustrating is nothing but a product of self-deception? If the point of the game is to be a simulation, then yes, it does have serious flaws, just like every other RPG I've ever played. However, that's not the point of the game and so your argument has [I]serious flaws[/I]. To suggest that there's a considerable number of players who are being fooled into enjoying a seriously flawed game and just won't admit it to themselves is absurd beyond words. 4E isn't perfect, and it's not for everyone, however it certainly has merits to make it worthy of a following, even if it's not for you. Suggesting otherwise clearly indicates bias on your part, not self-deception on the part of those who are enjoying it. [/QUOTE]

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