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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiberius" data-source="post: 4006699" data-attributes="member: 1376">Thumbs down. I'm contemplating evolving more thumbs for the sole purpose of pointing them down. It's like they're actively trying to drive me away. No Vancian magic? Mucking about with wizards? Attack rolls for area spells like fireball? Reducing the number of magic items? Per-encounter balancing? Fiat monsters? All major negatives for me. I guess I'm destined to only like odd-numbered editions of the game. :-/Well, I could always go back to Vampire and Mage, like I did after being turned off by 2e.Edit: Upon reflection, that I have taken such a dislike to what we've seen so far is saddening. I was really excited upon the announcement of 4e, but all that has disappeared. I just get the sense that someone hung a big "Not FOR you!" sign on the new edition.</blockquote>