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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jolt" data-source="post: 4006983" data-attributes="member: 18142">Thumbs down for me.I like some of the "game-bloat" they've gotten rid of but that's about it.  I like the promise of more balance between classes at different levels but have seen nothing to back that claim up.Too little time between editions.Too much $ invested in 3.X; unwilling to do so again for 4.X (especially if they're decreasing time between editions).Lack of true specialist wizards (this was a real blow to me).Was initially excited about the "more options" idea but is actually seems like we're getting less (e.g. no true specialist wizards).  I see different options, not more.Move towards the "contemporary rpg" model where the rules favor playing the game a certain way.  And if you don't then you're, however indirectly, punished or made to do more work.  When D&D stops being generic, it stops being D&D.Not willing to wait till PHB & DMG 3 second printing to get things that I thought should have been there from the beginning; especially when it something thats already been around in the past.Won't want to buy the rehash of 4.0 material when 4.5 comes out.Not willing to pay $ for lots of fluff 'n stuff I won't use (Dragonborn, Tieflings, etc.) and that doesn't fit in my homebrew anyway.No interest in paying extra money for things like DDI to get content I can't get anywhere else; especially as they've stated they want to increase the digital presence of the game.I could go on but I'm not going to convince anyone here of anything at this point no matter what I say or how I say it.I agree with Pinotage, I may take the things I like from 4E and incorporate it into my current world.  That seems easier to me than a complete rehash.jolt</blockquote>

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