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<blockquote data-quote="MGibster" data-source="post: 8022813" data-attributes="member: 4534">I won't lie, I was absolutely blown away by Vampire when it was first released in 1991.&nbsp; It was so different from anything I had played before and factions were a big part of that.&nbsp; You had the big ones like the Camarilla and the Sabbat but you could divide those two into many more subgroups as well which led to all sort of fun opportunities for game play.&nbsp; There are many players out there who chafe at the idea their characters might have obligations to any authority be it noble, the law, or a god.&nbsp; Perhaps they feel as though they follow enough rules in real life and they just want to cut loose and have fun in game.&nbsp; That's fine.&nbsp; Games where factions are important might not be for them.&nbsp; Especially if their characters are expected to toe the line.&nbsp; Personally, I don't think it's a good idea to look at D&amp;D settings with an overly critical eye.&nbsp; They're simply a setting designed to have fun adventures in.&nbsp; There was plenty of wonder in the Indiana Jones movies with the Holy Grail and the Ark of the Covenant even though the Nazis were hot on his trail.&nbsp; I think factions are a great way to help new players figure out what they're going to be doing in the game.&nbsp; In Shadowrun, the player characters are shadowrunners (I'll define them as a very loose faction) in a world awash with corporations, nations, religious groups, etc., etc.&nbsp; It's a fantastic setting and without that shadowrunning faction I think it'd be tough for newer players to figure out what they were supposed to be doing.&nbsp; But that doesn't mean you need factions in every game.&nbsp; The bulk of my D&amp;D games were spent without PCs joining any faction save their adventuring group.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MGibster, post: 8022813, member: 4534"] I won't lie, I was absolutely blown away by Vampire when it was first released in 1991. It was so different from anything I had played before and factions were a big part of that. You had the big ones like the Camarilla and the Sabbat but you could divide those two into many more subgroups as well which led to all sort of fun opportunities for game play. There are many players out there who chafe at the idea their characters might have obligations to any authority be it noble, the law, or a god. Perhaps they feel as though they follow enough rules in real life and they just want to cut loose and have fun in game. That's fine. Games where factions are important might not be for them. Especially if their characters are expected to toe the line. Personally, I don't think it's a good idea to look at D&D settings with an overly critical eye. They're simply a setting designed to have fun adventures in. There was plenty of wonder in the Indiana Jones movies with the Holy Grail and the Ark of the Covenant even though the Nazis were hot on his trail. I think factions are a great way to help new players figure out what they're going to be doing in the game. In Shadowrun, the player characters are shadowrunners (I'll define them as a very loose faction) in a world awash with corporations, nations, religious groups, etc., etc. It's a fantastic setting and without that shadowrunning faction I think it'd be tough for newer players to figure out what they were supposed to be doing. But that doesn't mean you need factions in every game. The bulk of my D&D games were spent without PCs joining any faction save their adventuring group. [/QUOTE]

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