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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EmbraCraig" data-source="post: 5899083" data-attributes="member: 6678377">But the character is dying or unconscious (depending on terminology used in your edition)... they're not really in a position to decide they need to pull themselves together. I get that you're probably talking on general principle rather than for the particular case of a character of a character at 0 HP, but fair enough - as I said, I'm happy with there being a small chance of a 0HP character coming round on their own. I wouldn't like characters to be able to do it by choice - that just makes the 1st time any character is KO'd during an encounter a non-event.Then I've misinterpreted - apologies.That's my take on them - HP are your short term ability to keep going in this fight, Healing Surges are your ability to keep dusting yourself off, pulling yourself together and have just as hard a fight another 3,4 or 5 times a day. Sort of an Aerobic vs Anaerobic fitness thing.  Works in much the same was as HP does - the process of exhaustion etc is going on in game, but your character functions perfectly well until they have 0 left.The game also doesn't explain why character fight perfecly well with 1 HP left, or why wearing full plate armour makes you more difficult to hit despite but take the same amount of damage - these are all abstractions, but Surges are new as opposed to one that everyone's been used to using for years.With you on the options for different types of games, though - hopefully 5E comes through and gives us lots of options for everything <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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