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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9328641" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Not any Holy Avenger I'd ever be happy with.Sure. &quot;Holy Avenger&quot; is just a generic name, just as &quot;grimoire&quot; is a generic name for fancy magic books.Well yeah, that was kind of my point.All playstyles involve intentionality. Some just like to pretend that their intentional choices were forced by something or other.An artifact weapon showing up in any campaign should shake it up. That's the whole point of it being &quot;an artifact.&quot;It's also why my personal preference is to go for (as said above) incomplete, damaged, partial, or budding artifacts rather than starting right off the bat with the genuine article or waiting umpteen weeks before seeing one. That way, you get all the benefit of the player feeling a special attachment (indeed, a growing attachment and satisfaction!) to the equipment, while embracing that the story will grow in the telling and you don't actually know where it will end. You still get to play to find out what happens, but you also know that, whatever happens, it'll be something juicy.(Incidentally, &quot;partial&quot; = you have a disassembled artifact and need to put its parts back together, while &quot;incomplete&quot; = you have, say, one or two parts of a set of items that, collectively, act like an artifact but individually are just nice magic items. Similar effect, but one is a story of restoration, the other a story of collection.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9328641, member: 6790260"] Not any Holy Avenger I'd ever be happy with. Sure. "Holy Avenger" is just a generic name, just as "grimoire" is a generic name for fancy magic books. Well yeah, that was kind of my point. [I]All[/I] playstyles involve intentionality. Some just like to pretend that their intentional choices were forced by something or other. An artifact weapon showing up in [I]any[/I] campaign should shake it up. That's the whole point of it being "an artifact." It's also why my personal preference is to go for (as said above) incomplete, damaged, partial, or budding artifacts rather than starting right off the bat with the genuine article or waiting umpteen weeks before seeing one. That way, you get all the benefit of the player feeling a special attachment (indeed, a growing attachment and satisfaction!) to the equipment, while embracing that the story will grow in the telling and you don't actually know where it will end. You still get to play to find out what happens, but you also know that, whatever happens, it'll be something [I]juicy[/I]. (Incidentally, "partial" = you have a disassembled artifact and need to put its parts back together, while "incomplete" = you have, say, one or two parts of a [I]set[/I] of items that, collectively, act like an artifact but individually are just nice magic items. Similar effect, but one is a story of [I]restoration[/I], the other a story of [I]collection[/I].) [/QUOTE]

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