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<blockquote data-quote="Uruush" data-source="post: 1306513" data-attributes="member: 42140">Those are good points.&nbsp; I should have said that in many campaigns the first character is going to get a lot more use out their items than the second.&nbsp; I think my general point still holds though.&nbsp; I understand that there is a formula that arrives at a figure of 10500 for a rod of Metal and Mineral Detection, and a formula that arrives at a figure of 10000 for a Ring of Climbing, improved.&nbsp; I just don't agree with that formula in conjunction with following a strict protocol for determining character wealth because those items (and items like them) have an extremely narrow focus.&nbsp; Regardless of the focus of the campaign, the fellow with the Cloak of Resistance +5 (25,000 gp) is going to be much better off than the gruff dwarven prospector.&nbsp; Well, okay... if the focus of the entire campaign is to find large quantities of adamantium in difficult to reach mountain peaks and bring them down w/o pack animals and there are very few saving throws to make, then the prospector is ahead, but still...I like your approach as a DM, and I agree with it.&nbsp; I guess my question is, if you are willing for player X to keep his concept, and to provide him with opportunities to help the party by carrying heavy things, finding adamantium, and scaling sheer cliffs, are you also willing to allow him to start with those items in a campaign that begins with 6th level characters?&nbsp; If you answer to that is also &quot;yes,&quot; then I really like your style.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Uruush, post: 1306513, member: 42140"] Those are good points. I should have said that in many campaigns the first character is going to get a lot more use out their items than the second. I think my general point still holds though. I understand that there is a formula that arrives at a figure of 10500 for a rod of Metal and Mineral Detection, and a formula that arrives at a figure of 10000 for a Ring of Climbing, improved. I just don't agree with that formula in conjunction with following a strict protocol for determining character wealth because those items (and items like them) have an extremely narrow focus. [B]Regardless[/B] of the focus of the campaign, the fellow with the Cloak of Resistance +5 (25,000 gp) is going to be much better off than the gruff dwarven prospector. Well, okay... if the focus of the entire campaign is to find large quantities of adamantium in difficult to reach mountain peaks and bring them down w/o pack animals [B]and[/B] there are very few saving throws to make, then the prospector is ahead, but still... I like your approach as a DM, and I agree with it. I guess my question is, if you [B]are[/B] willing for player X to keep his concept, and to provide him with opportunities to help the party by carrying heavy things, finding adamantium, and scaling sheer cliffs, are you also willing to allow him to start with those items in a campaign that begins with 6th level characters? If you answer to that is also "yes," then I [B]really[/B] like your style. :) [/QUOTE]

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