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<blockquote data-quote="Hexmage-EN" data-source="post: 8313220" data-attributes="member: 79428"><p>One of the primary architects of bureaucracy, Max Weber, would probably strongly disagree with this.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In monarchies, where kings, queens, sultans, and emperors ruled, and patriarchies, where a council of elders, wise men, or male heads of extended families ruled, the top leaders typically achieved their positions by virtue of birthright. For example, when the queen died, her oldest son became king, regardless of his intelligence, experience, education, or desire. Likewise, promotion to prominent positions of authority in monarchies and patriarchies was based on who you knew (politics) or who you were (heredity).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rather than ruling by virtue of favoritism or personal or family connections, people in a bureaucracy would lead by virtue of their knowledge, expertise, or experience.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In a bureaucracy, each position or job is part of a chain of command that clarifies who reports to whom throughout the organization. Those higher in the chain of command have the right, if they so choose, to give commands, take action, and make decisions concerning activities occurring anywhere below them in the chain. Unlike in many monarchies or patriarchies, however, those lower in the chain of command are protected by a grievance procedure that gives them the right to appeal the decisions of those in higher positions.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Because of his strong distaste for favoritism, Weber believed that an organization’s rules and procedures should apply to all the members regardless of their position or status.</li> </ul><p>Personally, I think most real world societies would trend closer to Neutral in practice because it's really hard to get people on board with actually following the rules laid out. Weber's vision of bureaucracy is a more idealistic version that is free of corruption and favoritism and consistently rewards merit, unlike what is actually seen in the real world. A society whose members actually faithfully adhered to Weber's vision, though, would be a truly Lawful society.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hexmage-EN, post: 8313220, member: 79428"] One of the primary architects of bureaucracy, Max Weber, would probably strongly disagree with this. [LIST] [*]In monarchies, where kings, queens, sultans, and emperors ruled, and patriarchies, where a council of elders, wise men, or male heads of extended families ruled, the top leaders typically achieved their positions by virtue of birthright. For example, when the queen died, her oldest son became king, regardless of his intelligence, experience, education, or desire. Likewise, promotion to prominent positions of authority in monarchies and patriarchies was based on who you knew (politics) or who you were (heredity). [*]Rather than ruling by virtue of favoritism or personal or family connections, people in a bureaucracy would lead by virtue of their knowledge, expertise, or experience. [*]In a bureaucracy, each position or job is part of a chain of command that clarifies who reports to whom throughout the organization. Those higher in the chain of command have the right, if they so choose, to give commands, take action, and make decisions concerning activities occurring anywhere below them in the chain. Unlike in many monarchies or patriarchies, however, those lower in the chain of command are protected by a grievance procedure that gives them the right to appeal the decisions of those in higher positions. [*]Because of his strong distaste for favoritism, Weber believed that an organization’s rules and procedures should apply to all the members regardless of their position or status. [/LIST] Personally, I think most real world societies would trend closer to Neutral in practice because it's really hard to get people on board with actually following the rules laid out. Weber's vision of bureaucracy is a more idealistic version that is free of corruption and favoritism and consistently rewards merit, unlike what is actually seen in the real world. A society whose members actually faithfully adhered to Weber's vision, though, would be a truly Lawful society. [/QUOTE]
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