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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wednesday Boy" data-source="post: 5481859" data-attributes="member: 53678">I think it again depends on what image you want him to have.  If you want him to be the expert in his field, give him lots of renown.  When the party is going up against the nest of beholders, anyone will tell them to make sure they visit you first because you're the top beholder expert there is. On the other hand, you could have zero renown if your expertise is in a cryptic field.  The average person won't direct the party to your expert on Orcus because it's not something you'd advertise.  But if they ask the right people they get directed to you. It all comes down to how you want your character perceived.  Don't tie it to your actual level at all.</blockquote>