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<blockquote data-quote="NewJeffCT" data-source="post: 859167" data-attributes="member: 10784"><p>Well, we had a similar situation, but the end result ended up a lot different than yours. We have a large group of guys in their early to late 30s. I am married, as is one other guy. The rest of the geeks, I mean guys, are single. We have all been gaming a long time – myself and the other married guy going on 25 years or so.</p><p></p><p>We had a similar book of house rules in 2E, and our DM had just about everything published by TSR/Wizards for Second Edition. (By the way – looking back at old Dragons when 2E was announced, the letters to the editor were very similar to responses about when 3E and 3.5 were announced…)</p><p></p><p>We switched to 3E the weekend after it came out. We also brought in two new veteran gamers who’s group had recently broken up. However, they were dedicated 1E players.</p><p></p><p>Pretty soon, the group got into all sorts of arguments. The newer 1E guys just hated 3E (one went so far as to claim 1E offered the “cleanest and tightest” set of rules for any RPG game, ever) and a couple of the other guys had problems with some of the new rules. It just led to a lot of frustration all around.</p><p></p><p>At the time, I was the biggest 3E proponent, and I had to leave the group because I had gotten a new job that required me to work a sweatshop level amount of hours. So, the group soon bowed under the pressure and went back to 2E soon after I had left.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, the group DM took it upon himself to really learn the basics of 3E and liked it more and more the more he read. With me still out of the picture due to work (and marriage, and now a baby) they started on another 3E campaign. However, they kept it simple – everybody is human and no spellcasters to start. So, basically: fighter, rogue, ranger, monk, paladin. By keeping it simple and getting the guys to learn the rules slowly over time, the group was able to have a terrific 3E campaign that lasted 15 months and ended up with some guys around level 25 or 26. As the campaign progressed, spellcasting classes for the PCs came into play (first, when the ranger reached that level, then when one guy who died early and came back as an elf decided to multiclass.</p><p></p><p>As far as I know, we still have no house rules. But, I think we also only used one prestige class and did not introduce any extra feats from the supplemental books until after level 10…</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NewJeffCT, post: 859167, member: 10784"] Well, we had a similar situation, but the end result ended up a lot different than yours. We have a large group of guys in their early to late 30s. I am married, as is one other guy. The rest of the geeks, I mean guys, are single. We have all been gaming a long time – myself and the other married guy going on 25 years or so. We had a similar book of house rules in 2E, and our DM had just about everything published by TSR/Wizards for Second Edition. (By the way – looking back at old Dragons when 2E was announced, the letters to the editor were very similar to responses about when 3E and 3.5 were announced…) We switched to 3E the weekend after it came out. We also brought in two new veteran gamers who’s group had recently broken up. However, they were dedicated 1E players. Pretty soon, the group got into all sorts of arguments. The newer 1E guys just hated 3E (one went so far as to claim 1E offered the “cleanest and tightest” set of rules for any RPG game, ever) and a couple of the other guys had problems with some of the new rules. It just led to a lot of frustration all around. At the time, I was the biggest 3E proponent, and I had to leave the group because I had gotten a new job that required me to work a sweatshop level amount of hours. So, the group soon bowed under the pressure and went back to 2E soon after I had left. Meanwhile, the group DM took it upon himself to really learn the basics of 3E and liked it more and more the more he read. With me still out of the picture due to work (and marriage, and now a baby) they started on another 3E campaign. However, they kept it simple – everybody is human and no spellcasters to start. So, basically: fighter, rogue, ranger, monk, paladin. By keeping it simple and getting the guys to learn the rules slowly over time, the group was able to have a terrific 3E campaign that lasted 15 months and ended up with some guys around level 25 or 26. As the campaign progressed, spellcasting classes for the PCs came into play (first, when the ranger reached that level, then when one guy who died early and came back as an elf decided to multiclass. As far as I know, we still have no house rules. But, I think we also only used one prestige class and did not introduce any extra feats from the supplemental books until after level 10… [/QUOTE]
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