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<blockquote data-quote="Bob5th" data-source="post: 860280" data-attributes="member: 2830">Yeah it took our group a bit to get into 3E. A singl 3e into mission. A 12th level adventure under a bad DM. A level 1 - 19 series ran by me. And a level 1- 12 series ran by the normal DM. After that we started the Adventure path with a good feal for the rules. Everyones complains about Thaco but I myself never had a problem with it. Don't get me wrong BAB is easier but I could have lived with Thaco.I like all the underlying math. To me it makes it feal as if they are based on something no just a thing the desingers pulled out of thin air.In our group when someone is going to craft something they've figured it up and dicussed it with the DM between gaming sessions.I find the stacking bonuses to be much easier than 2E. In 2E it was like Item A stacks with Item B but B doesn't Stack with C or D but C and D stack with each other. In 3E it more cut and dry. Like bonuses (almost) never stack. When we started 3E we overlooked the stacking rules and had this crazy idea that everything stacked. If that didn't lead to some over powered characters then I don't know what did.Grapple, Trip, and Overrun. Yeah I'm still having to look all that stuff up. Not as much for the grapple modifer but for the all the things that can be done in a grapple.Yeah I have some good memories of 2E when I first started to play around 6-7 years ago with the groups extra character Bob Jr. But would I want to switch back to 2E now? No I perfectly content here in 3E.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bob5th, post: 860280, member: 2830"] Yeah it took our group a bit to get into 3E. A singl 3e into mission. A 12th level adventure under a bad DM. A level 1 - 19 series ran by me. And a level 1- 12 series ran by the normal DM. After that we started the Adventure path with a good feal for the rules. Everyones complains about Thaco but I myself never had a problem with it. Don't get me wrong BAB is easier but I could have lived with Thaco. I like all the underlying math. To me it makes it feal as if they are based on something no just a thing the desingers pulled out of thin air. In our group when someone is going to craft something they've figured it up and dicussed it with the DM between gaming sessions. I find the stacking bonuses to be much easier than 2E. In 2E it was like Item A stacks with Item B but B doesn't Stack with C or D but C and D stack with each other. In 3E it more cut and dry. Like bonuses (almost) never stack. When we started 3E we overlooked the stacking rules and had this crazy idea that everything stacked. If that didn't lead to some over powered characters then I don't know what did. Grapple, Trip, and Overrun. Yeah I'm still having to look all that stuff up. Not as much for the grapple modifer but for the all the things that can be done in a grapple. Yeah I have some good memories of 2E when I first started to play around 6-7 years ago with the groups extra character Bob Jr. But would I want to switch back to 2E now? No I perfectly content here in 3E. [/QUOTE]

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