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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 2252518" data-attributes="member: 5143">I find that players will run if they know the enemies are tough enough.  My players don't think anything is too tough, though.It depends on the type of players and type of game.  For instance, in my game players know that, if they die, they will be brought back to life.  No big deal.  If they can't be brought back to life, they will make up new characters at a level lower.  They actually look forward to this as they get bored of character concepts quickly and want to try new ones.We are fine with this sort of play.  They are meant to be the heroes, they are fighting against forces which will destroy the world and anyone in it if they fail, their lives and their companions lives mean nothing compared to their goal.However, if you want advice on how to make them run, if that is your goal.  You want to make it SO obvious that they will lose that they will have no other choice.  Some of the above advice is good.  If they are of the rules lawyer variety, you want to throw something with at LEAST 10 CRs above them to make sure they run.  Make it something they'll recognize as well.  If they are newbies and wouldn't know what the creature is, make sure they see it causing huge amounts of damage.  Also, if that doesn't work, step out of your DM chair for a second and say "Alright, you have all heard stories of these creatures, you know that a thousand warriors have fought it and died to a man without scratching one.  You don't think you can beat it."  They will run.On the other hand, it sounds more like you are throwing things like a creature with a CR of the average party level+4 against them and thinking "this is impossible", then it's only very hard.  The PCs, being the heroes they are, are fighting it hoping their skill and tactics will tips the scale in their favor.  And it might.  This sort of encounter is NOT undefeatable.</blockquote>

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