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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2254251" data-attributes="member: 19675">I have trained many players over the years, so as long as I have one of my veterans in the campaign, its usually not a problem- they know when to run, and generally let the rest of the party know it.  High-level campaigns, however, sometimes lead even those players astray...How did I train them? I don't pull punches or fudge die rolls, and I get PC deaths without TPK's.In every campaign I run these days,  use the 2Ed DarkSun "Character Tree" concept.  I gently suggest that everyone create multiple PCs for the campaign, but I don't require it.At some point, a PC's existence will be threatened, and if the player doesn't recognize the danger or doesn't get help, that PC will die or be mortally wounded.By the next time such an encounter shows up, the players are a little bit more aware.  If not, the lesson gets taught again, with a couple of casualties instead of one.2 lessons is usually all it takes.The method has been so successful that one of my players used it on me in HIS campaign...and yes, my PC died!</blockquote>