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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 812154" data-attributes="member: 114">Re: Re: How do you guys do Hps? And why?I think the problem being identified isn't about averages though, it is about particulars.The 20th level barbarian above could have rolled 1 on every single HD and end up with 12+19+20=51 hp. That would be an extraordinarily fragile &quot;melee character&quot;. At least he wouldn't have to worry about failing a &quot;massive damage&quot; save <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> To be more realistic, the barbarian might easily roll a 1 when he reaches 2nd level - and that puts him below the average for ever (unless he gets lucky and rolls high).Sure *on average* he will end up with avg hp... but in actual fact people can end up well below. I have a fighter type who is 4th level and his hp rolls were 10 + 5 + 4 + 1. Great. barring CON bonuses I have 20hp when I might have expected 26. What is worse, a comerade who is otherwise identical got 10+9+10+9 = 38hp! He is nearly twice as resiliant just because he rolled well (and those die rolls stay with him for ever!)Cheers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 812154, member: 114"] [b]Re: Re: How do you guys do Hps? And why?[/b] I think the problem being identified isn't about averages though, it is about particulars. The 20th level barbarian above could have rolled 1 on every single HD and end up with 12+19+20=51 hp. That would be an extraordinarily fragile "melee character". At least he wouldn't have to worry about failing a "massive damage" save :rolleyes: To be more realistic, the barbarian might easily roll a 1 when he reaches 2nd level - and that puts him below the average for ever (unless he gets lucky and rolls high). Sure *on average* he will end up with avg hp... but in actual fact people can end up well below. I have a fighter type who is 4th level and his hp rolls were 10 + 5 + 4 + 1. Great. barring CON bonuses I have 20hp when I might have expected 26. What is worse, a comerade who is otherwise identical got 10+9+10+9 = 38hp! He is nearly twice as resiliant just because he rolled well (and those die rolls stay with him for ever!) Cheers [/QUOTE]

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