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Message: <blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 4598767" data-attributes="member: 3400">Keep in mind that there are some modifiers for how (un-)believable a bluff is when trying to beat someone's sense motive. If you're good at figuring out what the bluff should be, the task is easier.But I have no problem with plenty of 20th level characters not being able to tell if someone is lying better than lower level characters... for whom that is an important skill. It's all in how you develop the character over the levels. If you really want to be good at reading people, invest in the skill. If you weren't willing to do that, it obviously wasn't so important, was it? Pay the price for gullibility and move on.Ah, that should depend on how smart the thief really is. If he can keep the graft to an unnoticeable trickle, why would you expect the other PCs to notice? Eventually, they might. That rogue will probably roll sufficiently low vs the other PC rolling sufficiently high if he really does it a lot and triggers that many contests and that will suffice to get him caught. That's one of the benefits of having the random factor be so large, it takes a substantial investment for someone's skill to dominate the die roll.</blockquote>