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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 4609322" data-attributes="member: 16285">]What he said was that people needed to consciously take 10 (which they forgot to) - hence it is not a &quot;normal&quot; roll but a conscious action.He then went on to house-rule it so that it was no longer a conscious action (hence the reason it is a house-rule since the RAW requires it to be a conscous action).There is essentially no difference between the player's decision and the PC's actions in this case since the player is describing what the PC is doing. If the player doesn't specify that the PC is taking ten then the PC isn't, which means that it must be a conscious decision or else the PC would automatically be taking 10 regardless of the player's decision. This is what Chris' house-rule did - was make it an automatic check and no longer a conscious decision.&nbsp;I'm sorry. You said that &quot;careful&quot; was &quot;normal&quot; or more specifically by driving normal you can avoid simple mistakes.Now this would translate into a higher bonus for driving that you have than someone who is just learning to drive.&nbsp; You are &quot;taking 10&quot; by &quot;paying attention&quot; to what you are doing rather than just attempting it (the equivalent of a random roll) would put you at a result above the &quot;simple success&quot; rate. The novice driver would most likely have fewer bonuses and thus would most likely not get the same result (or near the amount of success).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 4609322, member: 16285"] ] What he said was that people needed to consciously take 10 (which they forgot to) - hence it is not a "normal" roll but a conscious action. He then went on to house-rule it so that it was no longer a conscious action (hence the reason it is a house-rule since the RAW requires it to be a conscous action). There is essentially no difference between the player's decision and the PC's actions in this case since the player is describing what the PC is doing. If the player doesn't specify that the PC is taking ten then the PC isn't, which means that it must be a [I]conscious decision[/I] or else the PC would [I]automatically[/I] be taking 10 regardless of the player's decision. This is what Chris' house-rule did - was make it an [I]automatic check [/I]and no longer a [I]conscious decision[/I]. I'm sorry. You said that "careful" was "normal" or more specifically by driving normal you can avoid simple mistakes. Now this would translate into a higher bonus for driving that you have than someone who is just learning to drive. You are "taking 10" by "paying attention" to what you are doing rather than just attempting it (the equivalent of a random roll) would put you at a result above the "simple success" rate. The novice driver would most likely have fewer bonuses and thus would most likely not get the same result (or near the amount of success). [/QUOTE]

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