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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JoeGKushner" data-source="post: 1281567" data-attributes="member: 1129">With the complete warrior now out, it's time to bring this thread back from the dead. Besides, Exalted Deeds has a lot of clerical material as do a few other new books.When introducing this material, the first thing to ask is how do players normally receive their spells? As a GM, for clerics, do you ever have the divine servants give the players any hints of spells that might be wise to take? It's been years, but I remember in the first ed DMG that the gods actually didn't grant low level spells and these were granted by other powers under the gods with the gods granting only the highest level. Made for some interesting prayers.In such cases, these patrons can provide vision quests for players to dig up old scrolls and lore. Perhaps the material in the PHB is only common knowledge of what the clerics can do and to find other information, they need to seek out other sources of knowledge.If the GM uses a multi-world setting like Oathbound, Planescape, Ravenloft or other, then perhaps those other gods simply don't grant those spells to the worshippers.Perhaps there is a little evolution in the campaign going on that forces new spells to rise to the top in order to overcome the challenges being faced. After all, cleric spells may be researched and created too no?</blockquote>