Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
How do YOU handle a Fastball Special, and other team manuevers?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Hawk Diesel" data-source="post: 7589441" data-attributes="member: 59848"><p>[MENTION=6981174]Immortal Sun[/MENTION] - My issue with your way of ruling it is not necessarily in the difficulty. As you mentioned, the DCs you set are reasonable. But you don't really go into the throw distance. Additionally, you don't really make mention if the thrower needs to use their action too. So there's some ambiguity regarding some aspects that would help determine if it's even worth trying the maneuver. And you indicate yourself that success is pretty much the same as running up and attempting an attack. If this would require action economy investment on the part of both the thrower and throwee, then all that for something the throwee could do themselves is not really worth it.</p><p></p><p>So outside of some ambiguity with your propsed solution, my main issue is that you yourself talk about a "punishing" side of a check and that you don't even want it to happen. Now, sure, as a DM there are plenty of things I don't want in my games or don't want my players to do. But in the words of [MENTION=6704184]doctorbadwolf[/MENTION], I still try to allow these instances in good faith if it makes sense. I try to reward creativity and provide rewards commensurate to the difficulty of the attempt. Additionally, I try to allow my players to try new things that might not be allowed by the rules if ot makes sense and seems fun. Yes, people are heavy and throwing them might be hard. But what if the thrower is Enlarged or under the effect of Bear's Strength or using a potion of Giant Strength? And maybe the throwee is reduced, wildshaped, or a monk. There are instances where these attempts might make more sense than just normal, everyday fights where the players haven't used relevant resources. But if these things become a problem, session 0 has already established that I may discuss with my players using the Wand of Retcon and change or disallow previous rulings for future sessions if my initial ruling becomes problemstic or the players attempt to abuse my leniency.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawk Diesel, post: 7589441, member: 59848"] [MENTION=6981174]Immortal Sun[/MENTION] - My issue with your way of ruling it is not necessarily in the difficulty. As you mentioned, the DCs you set are reasonable. But you don't really go into the throw distance. Additionally, you don't really make mention if the thrower needs to use their action too. So there's some ambiguity regarding some aspects that would help determine if it's even worth trying the maneuver. And you indicate yourself that success is pretty much the same as running up and attempting an attack. If this would require action economy investment on the part of both the thrower and throwee, then all that for something the throwee could do themselves is not really worth it. So outside of some ambiguity with your propsed solution, my main issue is that you yourself talk about a "punishing" side of a check and that you don't even want it to happen. Now, sure, as a DM there are plenty of things I don't want in my games or don't want my players to do. But in the words of [MENTION=6704184]doctorbadwolf[/MENTION], I still try to allow these instances in good faith if it makes sense. I try to reward creativity and provide rewards commensurate to the difficulty of the attempt. Additionally, I try to allow my players to try new things that might not be allowed by the rules if ot makes sense and seems fun. Yes, people are heavy and throwing them might be hard. But what if the thrower is Enlarged or under the effect of Bear's Strength or using a potion of Giant Strength? And maybe the throwee is reduced, wildshaped, or a monk. There are instances where these attempts might make more sense than just normal, everyday fights where the players haven't used relevant resources. But if these things become a problem, session 0 has already established that I may discuss with my players using the Wand of Retcon and change or disallow previous rulings for future sessions if my initial ruling becomes problemstic or the players attempt to abuse my leniency. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
How do YOU handle a Fastball Special, and other team manuevers?
Top