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<blockquote data-quote="Hawk Diesel" data-source="post: 7590148" data-attributes="member: 59848"><p>[MENTION=6801328]Elfcrusher[/MENTION] - Edit: Sorry, you edited your post. But the rules are vague about lifting. Also long as it is under your carrying capacity, the rules are (I suspect) purposely vague. But theoretically, a character could lift their carrying capacity without problem over their head or any penalty to movement.</p><p></p><p>In Game of Thrones (Fantasy Genre) we see the giant Wun Wun</p><p>-Smash a dude against a brick wall</p><p>-Knock out a horse and send it flying 10ft back with a single punch</p><p>-Casually grab and toss a phalanx soldier 20ft+ into the air.</p><p></p><p>Mechanically, Wun Wun could be described as a Goliath Barbarian under the effects of an Enlarge spell. If we assume an 18 Strength (easily achievable by level 4 with Standard Array), this would make the player capable of carrying of 1,080. Push, Drag, and Lift is 2,160. If we assume that the Goliath also took a potion of Hill Giant Strength (Uncommon potion, increases strength to 21), then carrying capacity is 1,260 lbs and Push, Drag, Lift is 2,520.</p><p></p><p>For perspective, median height of a Goliath is 7'1". According to Volo's, this would put the Goliath in a median weight of 277 lbs. However, real world comparisons of strongmen (what seem to be the closest real world analogs to barbarians) of similar height to a goliath mean a more realistic weight would be in the range of 350 - 400 lbs. Sean O'Hagan is 6'11" weighing 440 lbs, Hafthor Bjornsson is 6'9" and weighs between 397 - 441). A Goliath under the effects of an enlarge spell would 14'2" tall and weigh between 2,800 - 3,200 lbs. </p><p></p><p>An Olympic Shot Putter can throw a 16 lbs metal sphere about 60'. The hammer throw (16 lbs sphere on a chain) is around 260'. If a common weight for these athletes is around 250 lbs, this is an object weight about 6% of their body weight. For an enlaged Goliath Barbarian, 6% of their body weight ranges from 168 lbs - 192 lbs. Assuming equivalent strength ratios, an Enlarged Goliath Barbarian can throw an average sized human nearly as far as Olympic athletes can throw a shot put or a hammer. Of course, a shot put and hammer are perfect instruments for throwing and thus ideal for that purpose. However, even if we half those distances, an Enlarged Goliath Barbarian could throw a full grown man 30ft, or 130' if there is a harness that the player could grab onto.</p><p></p><p>So what I'm saying is that while not just anyone could throw a person in D&D, it is not outside the realm of possibility either, nor does it require a Genre change to imagine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawk Diesel, post: 7590148, member: 59848"] [MENTION=6801328]Elfcrusher[/MENTION] - Edit: Sorry, you edited your post. But the rules are vague about lifting. Also long as it is under your carrying capacity, the rules are (I suspect) purposely vague. But theoretically, a character could lift their carrying capacity without problem over their head or any penalty to movement. In Game of Thrones (Fantasy Genre) we see the giant Wun Wun -Smash a dude against a brick wall -Knock out a horse and send it flying 10ft back with a single punch -Casually grab and toss a phalanx soldier 20ft+ into the air. Mechanically, Wun Wun could be described as a Goliath Barbarian under the effects of an Enlarge spell. If we assume an 18 Strength (easily achievable by level 4 with Standard Array), this would make the player capable of carrying of 1,080. Push, Drag, and Lift is 2,160. If we assume that the Goliath also took a potion of Hill Giant Strength (Uncommon potion, increases strength to 21), then carrying capacity is 1,260 lbs and Push, Drag, Lift is 2,520. For perspective, median height of a Goliath is 7'1". According to Volo's, this would put the Goliath in a median weight of 277 lbs. However, real world comparisons of strongmen (what seem to be the closest real world analogs to barbarians) of similar height to a goliath mean a more realistic weight would be in the range of 350 - 400 lbs. Sean O'Hagan is 6'11" weighing 440 lbs, Hafthor Bjornsson is 6'9" and weighs between 397 - 441). A Goliath under the effects of an enlarge spell would 14'2" tall and weigh between 2,800 - 3,200 lbs. An Olympic Shot Putter can throw a 16 lbs metal sphere about 60'. The hammer throw (16 lbs sphere on a chain) is around 260'. If a common weight for these athletes is around 250 lbs, this is an object weight about 6% of their body weight. For an enlaged Goliath Barbarian, 6% of their body weight ranges from 168 lbs - 192 lbs. Assuming equivalent strength ratios, an Enlarged Goliath Barbarian can throw an average sized human nearly as far as Olympic athletes can throw a shot put or a hammer. Of course, a shot put and hammer are perfect instruments for throwing and thus ideal for that purpose. However, even if we half those distances, an Enlarged Goliath Barbarian could throw a full grown man 30ft, or 130' if there is a harness that the player could grab onto. So what I'm saying is that while not just anyone could throw a person in D&D, it is not outside the realm of possibility either, nor does it require a Genre change to imagine. [/QUOTE]
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