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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7792332" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>Well, see, here, to me...</p><p></p><p>when a group plan and discusses going up to the mayor's house to tell him his wife is a doppelganger, that <strong>is</strong> engaging the fiction.</p><p></p><p>When their character make their way across town to the mayor's house, looking for signs of villagers looking strange - perhaps already replaced - that <strong>is</strong> engaging the fiction.</p><p></p><p>When they encounter the guard at the mayor's gate, talk with him, ask yo see the mayor and get told "not until morning - office hours" - that <strong>is</strong> engaging the fiction.</p><p></p><p>So when the player with the high charisma decides to chance it that the guard is on the up abpnd up and says "Can I make a Persuasion check" - well, see, that does <strong>not</strong> start me to wondering "why oh why doesnt my player want to engage the fiction?" cuz that's what they have been doing all the way to get to this decision point.</p><p></p><p>It's really kinda propped up by examples where it seems like a scene starts out of the blue with a call for a check, but in my experience the "language" used to communicate to the GM is more indicative of local shorthand than whether or not players are or are not engaging the fiction. </p><p></p><p>I mean, sure, sometimes formatted dialog is fun and all, like Jeopardy where you have to answer the trivia question expressed as an answer with an answer in the form of a question. But really, in spite of that flipside format, Jeopardy is really folks answering trivia questions. </p><p></p><p>So, bringing this back full circle, by going thru thre or four rounds of "is it bigger than a breadbox" flavor "choose your category and sub-topic for your knowledge check" or "please express your question in the form of an action" style filtering of "Hey, does my character know about this?" to me all you are establishing is a very non-casual communication structure - and that to me is very much moving away from "engaging the fiction.</p><p></p><p>Can I have Lingo and Jargon for 600, Alex?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7792332, member: 6919838"] Well, see, here, to me... when a group plan and discusses going up to the mayor's house to tell him his wife is a doppelganger, that [B]is[/B] engaging the fiction. When their character make their way across town to the mayor's house, looking for signs of villagers looking strange - perhaps already replaced - that [B]is[/B] engaging the fiction. When they encounter the guard at the mayor's gate, talk with him, ask yo see the mayor and get told "not until morning - office hours" - that [B]is[/B] engaging the fiction. So when the player with the high charisma decides to chance it that the guard is on the up abpnd up and says "Can I make a Persuasion check" - well, see, that does [B]not[/B] start me to wondering "why oh why doesnt my player want to engage the fiction?" cuz that's what they have been doing all the way to get to this decision point. It's really kinda propped up by examples where it seems like a scene starts out of the blue with a call for a check, but in my experience the "language" used to communicate to the GM is more indicative of local shorthand than whether or not players are or are not engaging the fiction. I mean, sure, sometimes formatted dialog is fun and all, like Jeopardy where you have to answer the trivia question expressed as an answer with an answer in the form of a question. But really, in spite of that flipside format, Jeopardy is really folks answering trivia questions. So, bringing this back full circle, by going thru thre or four rounds of "is it bigger than a breadbox" flavor "choose your category and sub-topic for your knowledge check" or "please express your question in the form of an action" style filtering of "Hey, does my character know about this?" to me all you are establishing is a very non-casual communication structure - and that to me is very much moving away from "engaging the fiction. Can I have Lingo and Jargon for 600, Alex? [/QUOTE]
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