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<blockquote data-quote="Caspian Marqine" data-source="post: 1520718" data-attributes="member: 19043">Hmm, this raises a point that came up in a session that I was playing in two weeks back.&nbsp; The guy was using DM genie, and somehow didn't account for their ACs being really fricking high (32-33 or so, we were level 4) and let them run like that.&nbsp; I complained about the stupidity of that, he didn't listen, and then we resorted to using oil from another fight which I didn't get to use, throwing oil and lighting them on fire and burning them to death.&nbsp; There are different levels of unfair I would suppose, generally there's the unfair and unexpected, ie dudes with ACs higher than is nice to give to people or monsters that are built to be mean, like multi-headed legendary templated dragons, or the peasant you run accross is for some reason a legendary ninja or something, and hacks the party to death.&nbsp; That IMO that is the worst.&nbsp; I guess I'm still cheezed about the situation above, the GM should have known there was a problem.There's the unfair fight which is outrightly shown to be not fighteable, like lets say, a portal opening in the sky and a horde of dragons show up, the PC level being like 10 in this case.&nbsp; In those cases I figure stuff like that is generally plot based, it happens, everyone says &quot;bugger&quot; and runs away.Jonathan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caspian Marqine, post: 1520718, member: 19043"] Hmm, this raises a point that came up in a session that I was playing in two weeks back. The guy was using DM genie, and somehow didn't account for their ACs being really fricking high (32-33 or so, we were level 4) and let them run like that. I complained about the stupidity of that, he didn't listen, and then we resorted to using oil from another fight which I didn't get to use, throwing oil and lighting them on fire and burning them to death. There are different levels of unfair I would suppose, generally there's the unfair and unexpected, ie dudes with ACs higher than is nice to give to people or monsters that are built to be mean, like multi-headed legendary templated dragons, or the peasant you run accross is for some reason a legendary ninja or something, and hacks the party to death. That IMO that is the worst. I guess I'm still cheezed about the situation above, the GM should have known there was a problem. There's the unfair fight which is outrightly shown to be not fighteable, like lets say, a portal opening in the sky and a horde of dragons show up, the PC level being like 10 in this case. In those cases I figure stuff like that is generally plot based, it happens, everyone says "bugger" and runs away. Jonathan [/QUOTE]

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