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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wayne62682" data-source="post: 4834787" data-attributes="member: 40455">This came up last night in a game; how do you handle things when one PC is blinded, but nobody else is (or alternatively, when something is invisible to at least one PC, but not all of them)?  The rules for targeting what you can't see are confusing and seem WAY too harsh - you need to make a Perception check to see if you can locate the thing (and it has to make a stealth check - I guess only for people who can't see it) but you have a -10 penalty to the check, so it pretty much means you're never going to find it (especially since most creatures that can blind and/or go invisible easily have very high Stealth bonuses), and when that happens you have to pick a square, but you can't do that reliably because as a player you can see the map so you know exactly what square the creature is in, even if your character can't see him (granted you have a penalty anyways, but I've been called for metagaming because of this).  What normally seems to end up happening is the blind character is out of the fight, and that's no fun at all.  When fighting a creature that can go invisible easily this really adds to the grind.Can another PC yell "He's 10 feet north of you!" and have this serve as enough information for the blinded PC to move up and take a swing (or fire off a shot), albeit with the penalty for blinded?  My DM says that if you're blinded you have no sense of direction so you wouldn't know where "north" is.How do you handle these kind of situations in your games?</blockquote>

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