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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 7788700" data-attributes="member: 6750235">^^thisI do the same thing.&nbsp; Insight is generally a passive ability to I treat it like perception.&nbsp; It saves a lot on players asking to make such a roll.&nbsp; On that same note, if a player exhibits the intent to interrogate making mental notes or whatnot in their description then I call for a roll with the understanding it's hard to perform an action to initiate a passive skill.As for a player asking for a roll, ideally it's not the best.&nbsp; Ideally players perform actions and the DM decides whether a roll is needed or not.&nbsp; DM's are not infallible, however, and there's nothing wrong with the occasional reminder if someone else thinks it might be warranted.The main difference there is role play vs roll play.&nbsp; A character who says &quot;I watch his body language closely while I ask such and such&quot; is using role play while a character who says &quot;I use my insight&quot; is actually performing the exact same action via roll play.&nbsp; Many tables take a more simplistic approach like that, and there's nothing wrong with a group who is less immersive at the role-play aspect.In some loosely played groups I have walked around insighting many people.&nbsp; &quot;I insight you and I insight you and I insight you.&nbsp; I threaten to insight you and roll intimidate instead.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; Okay, full disclosure, that may not actually be true.&nbsp; It was just the first thing that came to mind at the thought of using the term insight like it's an action.&nbsp; ;-)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 7788700, member: 6750235"] ^^this I do the same thing. Insight is generally a passive ability to I treat it like perception. It saves a lot on players asking to make such a roll. On that same note, if a player exhibits the intent to interrogate making mental notes or whatnot in their description then I call for a roll with the understanding it's hard to perform an action to initiate a passive skill. As for a player asking for a roll, ideally it's not the best. Ideally players perform actions and the DM decides whether a roll is needed or not. DM's are not infallible, however, and there's nothing wrong with the occasional reminder if someone else thinks it might be warranted. The main difference there is role play vs roll play. A character who says "I watch his body language closely while I ask such and such" is using role play while a character who says "I use my insight" is actually performing the exact same action via roll play. Many tables take a more simplistic approach like that, and there's nothing wrong with a group who is less immersive at the role-play aspect. In some loosely played groups I have walked around insighting many people. "I insight you and I insight you and I insight you. I threaten to insight you and roll intimidate instead." Okay, full disclosure, that may not actually be true. It was just the first thing that came to mind at the thought of using the term insight like it's an action. ;-) [/QUOTE]

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