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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 7789193" data-attributes="member: 6750235">Sounds more like the difference between &quot;I attack the troll&quot; and requiring the player to describe his action as &quot;I step in and distract the troll with my elbow allow for an opening thrust ti the belly with my dagger&quot; just so the DM can tell the player to make an attack roll.&nbsp; Players and DM's both talk in game terms to facilitate actions.&nbsp; That doesn't change just because the encounter is social instead of combat.Insight is not an action.&nbsp; The PHB tells how it works.&quot;Doing so involves gleaning clues from body lan-guage, speech habits, and changes in mannerisms.&quot;It's generally observing and understanding reactions.&nbsp; That has nothing to do with previous editions and there's clearly no requirement that a player need declare an action to make observations.&nbsp; Again, that would also apply to perception as a similar ability.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 7789193, member: 6750235"] Sounds more like the difference between "I attack the troll" and requiring the player to describe his action as "I step in and distract the troll with my elbow allow for an opening thrust ti the belly with my dagger" just so the DM can tell the player to make an attack roll. Players and DM's both talk in game terms to facilitate actions. That doesn't change just because the encounter is social instead of combat. Insight is not an action. The PHB tells how it works. "Doing so involves gleaning clues from body lan- guage, speech habits, and changes in mannerisms." It's generally observing and understanding reactions. That has nothing to do with previous editions and there's clearly no requirement that a player need declare an action to make observations. Again, that would also apply to perception as a similar ability. [/QUOTE]

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