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<blockquote data-quote="Swarmkeeper" data-source="post: 7789204" data-attributes="member: 6921763">That is a bit of a misinterpretation of what anyone has said here.&nbsp; Everyone posting here, as far as I can tell, allows players to declare actions.&nbsp; It's kinda the key to the game, right?&nbsp; Some think &quot;I roll insight&quot; is an action that can be declared.&nbsp; Others, myself included, do not:&nbsp; I roll Insight is not something your character does; tell me what your character is doing and why and I'll let you know if you need to roll something.Sometimes the PCs have no chance of success in certain circumstances.&nbsp; Just because an Insight check is not called for does not automatically mean the NPC is being truthful.The players describe what their PCs are doing and the goal they hope to accomplish.&nbsp; The DM asks for Insight check(s) if appropriate to the situation to see if the players' stated approach(es) will succeed or fail - and, if failure results, what the repercussions might be.&nbsp; The DM narrates the results of the results of the adventurers' actions (PHB p6).&nbsp; &quot;This guy seems really nervous - his eyes are darting back and forth and he is stumbling over his words.&nbsp; What do Suiza and Brog do?&quot;&nbsp; Or, on a failure, &quot;He is quite annoyed at your intrusive line of questioning and bids you a good night, before turning on his heel and slamming the door in your face.&nbsp; What do you do now?&quot;&nbsp; No need to dictate what the PCs think or what they do next, that's up to the players.And as folks from opposing sides of the debate have said:In other words, if the DM calls for an Insight check, they are most certainly not telling the character what to do or think.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Swarmkeeper, post: 7789204, member: 6921763"] That is a bit of a misinterpretation of what anyone has said here. Everyone posting here, as far as I can tell, allows players to declare actions. It's kinda the key to the game, right? Some think "I roll insight" is an action that can be declared. Others, myself included, do not: I roll Insight is not something your character does; tell me what your character is doing and why and I'll let you know if you need to roll something. Sometimes the PCs have no chance of success in certain circumstances. Just because an Insight check is not called for does not automatically mean the NPC is being truthful. The players describe what their PCs are doing and the goal they hope to accomplish. The DM asks for Insight check(s) if appropriate to the situation to see if the players' stated approach(es) will succeed or fail - and, if failure results, what the repercussions might be. The DM narrates the results of the results of the adventurers' actions (PHB p6). "This guy seems really nervous - his eyes are darting back and forth and he is stumbling over his words. What do Suiza and Brog do?" Or, on a failure, "He is quite annoyed at your intrusive line of questioning and bids you a good night, before turning on his heel and slamming the door in your face. What do you do now?" No need to dictate what the PCs think or what they do next, that's up to the players. And as folks from opposing sides of the debate have said: In other words, if the DM calls for an Insight check, they are most certainly not telling the character what to do or think. [/QUOTE]

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