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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 7789238" data-attributes="member: 7006">Throw me in on the side of not requiring the players to gussy up their language in order to tell me they want to see if they can tell if the NPC is lying.&nbsp; There are only so many ways you can describe looking into their eyes, looking for beads of sweat, seeing if they fidgit, etc. etc. before it becomes so overdone that a shorthand is just easier and less monotonous.I mean, this is the whole reason the 10' pole gimmick became a thing and then became a cliche and then became something nobody even bothers with anymore.&nbsp; &quot;What are you trying to do?&quot;&nbsp; &quot;I'm looking for traps on the floor!&quot;&nbsp; &quot;How are you doing this?&quot;&nbsp; &quot;I'm going to use my 10' pole to tap the floor in front of me!&quot;&nbsp; &quot;Okay, make a 'search for traps' check.&quot;10 feet down the dungeon later...&quot;What are you trying to do?&quot;&nbsp; &quot;I'm looking for traps on the floor!&quot;&nbsp; &quot;How are you doing this?&quot;&nbsp; &quot;I'm going to use my 10' pole to tap the floor in front of me!&quot;&nbsp; &quot;Okay, make a 'search for traps' check.&quot;So on and so on and so on ad infinitum.And thus, we now no longer require players to describe this action over and over and over again.&nbsp; We just know that yeah, the thief is keeping his eyes out for traps, using all of his skills to do so.&nbsp; And then the DM will makes rolls if/when it is necessary.And many of us now treat Insight the same way.&nbsp; I for one have no need or desire to hear Insight's equivelant of the &quot;10' pole speech&quot; over and over anymore.&nbsp; You want to see if you can tell the NPC's lying?&nbsp; Fine, make a check.&nbsp; It's probably not going to work anyway, but go ahead and make it if you feel better about it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 7789238, member: 7006"] Throw me in on the side of not requiring the players to gussy up their language in order to tell me they want to see if they can tell if the NPC is lying. There are only so many ways you can describe looking into their eyes, looking for beads of sweat, seeing if they fidgit, etc. etc. before it becomes so overdone that a shorthand is just easier and less monotonous. I mean, this is the whole reason the 10' pole gimmick became a thing and then became a cliche and then became something nobody even bothers with anymore. "What are you trying to do?" "I'm looking for traps on the floor!" "How are you doing this?" "I'm going to use my 10' pole to tap the floor in front of me!" "Okay, make a 'search for traps' check." 10 feet down the dungeon later... "What are you trying to do?" "I'm looking for traps on the floor!" "How are you doing this?" "I'm going to use my 10' pole to tap the floor in front of me!" "Okay, make a 'search for traps' check." So on and so on and so on ad infinitum. And thus, we now no longer require players to describe this action over and over and over again. We just know that yeah, the thief is keeping his eyes out for traps, using all of his skills to do so. And then the DM will makes rolls if/when it is necessary. And many of us now treat Insight the same way. I for one have no need or desire to hear Insight's equivelant of the "10' pole speech" over and over anymore. You want to see if you can tell the NPC's lying? Fine, make a check. It's probably not going to work anyway, but go ahead and make it if you feel better about it. [/QUOTE]

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