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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7789390" data-attributes="member: 6919838">&quot;The problem this creates was identified in the last thread on this topic -- what happens if the NPC is telling the truth and the PC fails the check?&quot;It's hard to say without context but since 5e allows a failed ability check to be either just no progress or some progress with setback a wide latitude of redolutions is possible - assuming a failure was possible of vourse.Your character gets no real clues from their observation him beyond whatever has already been described.(no progress.)He's clearly annoyed by the loud gang over in the corner, so you arent seeing anything except that (no progress tied to circumstances )He is not telling everything, some signs of holding back. (Someceith set back since he is holding back about something unrelsted.)Careful study, tough read eith the hustle and bustle of this crowded bar but seems to be honest about it. (Meanwhile pocket is picked while PC is distracted. Will notice it later on.)Etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7789390, member: 6919838"] "The problem this creates was identified in the last thread on this topic -- what happens if the NPC is telling the truth and the PC fails the check?" It's hard to say without context but since 5e allows a failed ability check to be either just no progress or some progress with setback a wide latitude of redolutions is possible - assuming a failure was possible of vourse. Your character gets no real clues from their observation him beyond whatever has already been described.(no progress.) He's clearly annoyed by the loud gang over in the corner, so you arent seeing anything except that (no progress tied to circumstances ) He is not telling everything, some signs of holding back. (Someceith set back since he is holding back about something unrelsted.) Careful study, tough read eith the hustle and bustle of this crowded bar but seems to be honest about it. (Meanwhile pocket is picked while PC is distracted. Will notice it later on.) Etc. [/QUOTE]

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