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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jasper" data-source="post: 7789827" data-attributes="member: 277">Ok fine Dm Dave. As you rolled 10 below what you needed to detect the trap, I don't know what you did to set off the trap but it was tripped. That will be 8d8 thunder damage. Now give me a dex save for half damage.  I did have a player take a great exception to me saying he touched the door. I replied with a similar remark like the one above.Player 1, " I was ripped off by shopkeepers before, I focus all my attention on the lousy shop owner!"this equals Player 2, " I roll an insight check."  Player 1 is being a role player and being immersive. Player 2 is being a roll player. Both of them will be rolling a dice in the next few seconds.  I have DMed for both, I prefer role players but don't get bend out of shape when a roll player sits at my table.</blockquote>