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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7789845" data-attributes="member: 6779196">It’s acceptable to me, yes. It’s a little more vague than I would prefer, but it is acceptable.I disagree. 1.2 was (paraphrasing from memory<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> “any other re-wording of ‘can I make an Insight check?” The above statement of goal and approach is qualitatively different than “can I make an Insight check?” because it leaves me as DM the space to make the determination of whether it has the three things needed for a check to be called for, whereas “can I make an Insight check?” Asks me to skip that process.My mileage does vary. If you don’t care for that formatting, that’s fine. I have never attempted and will never attempt to claim that my preferred way of playing is the only way or the “right” way.Sure, if you are looking for rats and there aren’t any but there is something else that a visual search might reveal, you’ll find that thing. If you’re studying body language for signs of nervousness, and the person’s body language communicates confidence, you’ll notice that. The point of goal and approach is not to limit the possible results of your action to just your goal, it’s to give the DM the ability to easily assess whether the action can succeed, fail, and has a cost or consequence.Now, again, if you feel you can easily make such an assessment with only the announcement of a skill and the context of the scenario, great. Have fun doing that. I don’t.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 7789845, member: 6779196"] It’s acceptable to me, yes. It’s a little more vague than I would prefer, but it is acceptable. I disagree. 1.2 was (paraphrasing from memory:) “any other re-wording of ‘can I make an Insight check?” The above statement of goal and approach is qualitatively different than “can I make an Insight check?” because it leaves me as DM the space to make the determination of whether it has the three things needed for a check to be called for, whereas “can I make an Insight check?” Asks me to skip that process. My mileage does vary. If you don’t care for that formatting, that’s fine. I have never attempted and will never attempt to claim that my preferred way of playing is the only way or the “right” way. Sure, if you are looking for rats and there aren’t any but there is something else that a visual search might reveal, you’ll find that thing. If you’re studying body language for signs of nervousness, and the person’s body language communicates confidence, you’ll notice that. The point of goal and approach is not to limit the possible results of your action to just your goal, it’s to give the DM the ability to easily assess whether the action can succeed, fail, and has a cost or consequence. Now, again, if you feel you can easily make such an assessment with only the announcement of a skill and the context of the scenario, great. Have fun doing that. I don’t. [/QUOTE]

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