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<blockquote data-quote="Fast_Jimmy" data-source="post: 7354867" data-attributes="member: 6939191">Yeah, no. I'm quoting this twice in the same thread now.<a href="http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/rules-answers-november-2015" target="_blank">http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/rules-answers-november-2015</a>What you're describing may be how you run things at your table, which is fine... but its not how the rules work.If you follow the game as prescribed, Surprise is incredibly tricky and difficult to pull off, even by a completely hidden character who is incredibly Stealthy and blessed with Initiative. A Rogue with Skulker (to hide the most easily), Sharpshooter (to be as far away as possible) and Alert (to get +5 to Initiative) can snipe someone from complete darkness and, if they flub their Initiative roll, will not be Surprising their target. That's RAW.Is that ideal? I'd say probably not... but that's the rules. So when people say Assassinate is a terrible ability that needs to be fixed, they can only really say that with the existing rules. Otherwise, this entire discussion doesn't stay &quot;how do you all handle Assassins&quot; and, instead, becomes, &quot;how do you all homebrew Surprise?&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fast_Jimmy, post: 7354867, member: 6939191"] Yeah, no. I'm quoting this twice in the same thread now. [url]http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/rules-answers-november-2015[/url] What you're describing may be how you run things at your table, which is fine... but its not how the rules work. If you follow the game as prescribed, Surprise is incredibly tricky and difficult to pull off, even by a completely hidden character who is incredibly Stealthy and blessed with Initiative. A Rogue with Skulker (to hide the most easily), Sharpshooter (to be as far away as possible) and Alert (to get +5 to Initiative) can snipe someone from complete darkness and, if they flub their Initiative roll, will not be Surprising their target. That's RAW. Is that ideal? I'd say probably not... but that's the rules. So when people say Assassinate is a terrible ability that needs to be fixed, they can only really say that with the existing rules. Otherwise, this entire discussion doesn't stay "how do you all handle Assassins" and, instead, becomes, "how do you all homebrew Surprise?" [/QUOTE]

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